If you mean warning of wolves behind pulpits, yes.Its called warning. God is bigger than that. You said Ill call it straight to their face. My point is you HAVENT. Presumptuous, ridiculous and like a Christine Caine sermon unbiblical. And there is one thing you must remember about wolves which separates them from Christians. Women are not meant to be in these positions. Nick and Christine Caine, pictured with their daughters Catherine (left) and Sophia (right). One taps you on the shoulder when youre doing something wrong, the other tells you that you are, inherently, wrong. Joyce Meyer brought me closer to my walk with JESUS and my daughter is going into ministry to teach people about Jesus and HIS LOVE for his people! Lets get anchored. I was born for this time - and so were you. Spiritual Formation There have been hundreds of girls rescued, and dozens of traffickers thrown in jail. Courage, after all, is not the absence of fear. The couple also run a network of churches in Europe, as well as Propel Women, a ministry that aims to equip women to fulfil their God-given purpose. loads of accusations with no documentation.. And I believe that impacts 24 hours of our day, seven days a week and every sphere of life. Is the author of this post aware of the prominence of women in Jesus ministry? I can assure you, you wont. We were diligent churchgoers, but it seemed to be more about our culture rather than a focus on a personal relationship with Jesus. And is that true? My maids and I will fast likewise. Calling out a false teacher? Christine's desperate search for her roots turned up a birth certificate. They called people out TO THEIR FACES, whether in speech or by letter. So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars . Christine Caine partners with heretics, promotes them, and endorses them. I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven.. You cant see the difference between calling someone out for false teaching or calling someone out for being a woman in charge. You think this would say some kind of socialized when it isnt. Amy, I am all for lovingly correcting others or discerning scriptures. Just love God, love people, love each other. Fearfully and wonderfully made: 5 disabled Christians share their stories, Chat GPT: The biggest leap forward in AI is changing everything. Seems to me that a dozen apostles brought the message to millions. Visiting Sydney from her California base to attend Hillsong's Colour conference this week, Caine says she was "all in" for Christ from the moment she . Christine Caine treats the bible in thissermonin a similar wayhow a clairvoyant will speak vague things into a persons life as though they are predicting a persons fate/destiny. It sounds exhausting and it would be if I was striving but its a response to the invitation of God. I have a question Have you read Mark Battersons book The Circle Maker? The first three points more or less presuppose the context of a local congregation. But then I met Jesus, I was 8 years old when God gave me a prophetic vision. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. At 22, a friend took me to Hillsong Church in Sydney. They are never mentioned apart. And if you think God didnt use women to lead men and women in scripture Rather than writing about her on message boards, I encourage you to follow Matthew 18 and attempt to reach her directly (her website, her social media accounts, her ministry, her appearancesincluding one in Chicago this week). Oh, so you have had a chance to talk with them one on one in the spirit of Matthew 18? for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! Thats the sign of a person whos self-promoting through public pugnacity. Had I listened to the Pastor who told me Joyce Meyers ministry went against the word of God I may still be 300+pounds tens of thousands of dollars in debt and struggling to find my worth and value as a woman of God. This woman of God, like every other women of God has a powerful testimony, this woman of God, like every other women of God is a powerful witness of Christ Jesus that makes the name of Jesus great. In person, Caine is funny, loud and unapologetic. That word is the same for us today we are responsible to test the spirits, research and hold everything up to Gods Word for comparison. Isnt there a harlot in the lineage of Christ? Wanting to be right? If you know and read your bible that is quite obvious. Im watching people deconstruct their faith, prominent leaders renouncing Jesus. The mass followings, the hundreds for Christ are just numbers. No doubt! Thank you Karen for speaking the TRUTH! People tried to silence me, but God was faithful, Ravi Zacharias sins of sexual abuse went undetected for years. Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. Maybe its time to watch this short clip. It amazes me all her supporters can only base their drive-by comments on dont judge, presupposing what God does while ignoring His written word, or the Love syndrome, we all need love, we must love, God is only about love, Jesus is only about love, youre not loving if youre judging. was the author of this article abused as a child and had Jesus heal their heart? God made us equal. Woman can be used and will be used by God wether some like it or not. Teachers? I cannot believe I just read this comment on a Christian site. If we would be faithful to Christ, we must be willing to impose the most extreme sanction that the church has to battle false teachers. Penso que isso seja inveja por Deus usar essas mulheres poderosamente!!! 30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. I felt many emotions and very vulnerable, but I could also feel God's presence with me in a palpable way. They walked as one for they had mutually agreed to put Christ first. Christine decided to allow God to begin the process of healing and restoration. Karen, you need to go back and read the meaning of scriptural judgement, we judge those that call themselves Christians, we dont judge the outside world, read his the Bereans were described for being judges, they compared every teaching with scripture. Purpose Driven Over the years I've had to fight to renew my mind to a place where I understand at the core of my being that Jesus is trustworthy. All poster children of false teachers! I Love Christine Caines sermons Not you or anyone else will stop me from listening to her .. HAVE a nice blessed day , Maybe this doesnt have anything to do with the subject I know is that Christine came convinced my girlfriend that her parents were going to die if she didnt give her money and she ended up giving her entire savings on top of that Christine Caine told my girlfriend that her parents also had to give money but her parents did not want to give money so she tried to steal it from them and then got caught after that she bore owed money to give to christines king and Im talking thousands of dollars this is what Christine Caine did to me And my girlfriend I didnt know anything about it until it was all done Meanwhile Im watching my girlfriend go through hell because she wants all this money to give to Christine Caine anyway she possibly can get it she has turned into a nut case and there doesnt seem to be anything I can do about it so here I am Making my comment. We are all called to preach the gospel to others not only men! 3:8) I am sorry to say you seem like really unhappy, envious people who just seek to divide and bring fear, manipulate and imtimidate. 2005 - sept. 20105 ans 9 mois. Living in the archaic mindeset that a womans place is in the home negates part of what God created and presumes mankind will not grow and adapt over time. It cost me everything to go forward with Jesus. Christine Caine is wife to Nick, mother to Catherine and Sophia, author of Undaunted, and founder of The A21 Campaign, an antihuman trafficking organization striving to abolish slavery in the 21st century. I want us all to make it to the finish line. Sorry, Christine Caine nor Joyce Meters is Esther, do what Esther did nor follow what is commanded: 13 And Mordecai told them to answer Esther: Do not think in your heart that you will escape in the kings palace any more than all the other Jews. II John 9-11. Those who respond to biblical correction reveal that they have the Spirit and are under the command of Jesus. Thales. When you question someones salvation, you are questioning their citizenship in heaven. Who were you directing this to? She said its on ongoing process to stay emotionally strong. Our job is not to judge others. You cant add or take away from the gospel and thats what they are doing. Talking about them and their ministries behind their backs is NOT of Christ. A lot of my adult life has been a journey of learning to trust him. When nobody else would stay and clean up, I swept the floors. I read the title and I thought WHAT! Im sure they used scriptures to defend themselveswhich ones did they use? Now lets flip that around and look at it from our perspective. Elizabeth Prata of The End Times lays out six reasons why Caine must be avoided like the plague. Read what the real women of God did in scripture, neither Cain nor Meyer fit the model. In the end, I need to know what I believe, and make sure my life aligns with it, before I start pointing fingers at others. (Marin) but I am discerning enough to know what to discard and when to take note of a truth they are speaking that I need to apply to my life. 3For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. ~ Christine Caine. As Priscilla is always paired with her husband, Aquila, it is difficult to separate her and place her on a pedestal of her own. What do we know really? Good night read your Bible berean and how about not twisting it when you do so. And that brings us to our second point. Pharisees warned of Jesus too. God is relational but He is also Almighty God, Yahweh and there are no other gods before Him. God gave you a lifeboat. The only teachers whom the church supports are those whose teaching is in accordance with the standard of divine truth (3 John 8). As soon as I walked in I knew, This is what I've been wanting all my life. (Marin) Im pretty confident that both of these women were richly blessed.. God does not want shepherds to be pugnacious and walking around all the time with a theological chip on their shoulder. Christine Caine; Narrator: Christine Caine; Length: 6 hours 15 minutes; Publisher: Thomas Nelson; Publish date: June 08, 2021; Language: English; ISBN: 9781400226597; 4.42 What I went through in 2016-2017, I think God was preparing me for what everyone else was going to go through in 2020. A cult? We recognise their continuing connection to the land and waters, and thank them for protecting this land and its ecosystems since time immemorial. This year, people have had to cope with things they never thought theyd have to cope with. Wow. I pray that you would humble yourself before the mighty hand of God.. That's where it all started. Paul wrote letters DIRECTLY to those who were out of linehe didnt write to everyone else BUT them. But perhaps Christine Caines best known and most worrisome bond is with false (Word of Faith) teacher Joyce Meyer. I would say the fawning over Christine Caine and other false teachers is more akin to being cult like. I started volunteering to clean up the youth hall. ), and it is my prayer they will be baptized this Easter. You live all of your life with the utmost transparency including your family life. You have yet to back up with scripture how what you are doing is the appropriate way of handling false teachers. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Angels, Demons, Spiritual Warfare But instead you find a way to question our intellect and ANYTHING good someone else is learning, leaving us with nothing. I was full of shame, guilt, anger, unforgiveness and bitterness. And if I could get to a place where Im thinking: How did I get here? theres got to be a lot of other people going, How did I get here? I think this is a site for pharisees. Best-selling Christian author Christine Caine is calling on all Christians to get real and be authentic in their relationships in her new book. I know there is a BIBLICAL way of calling someone out for false teaching, and anonymously posting on a site behind their backs is NOT IT. Id like to know how you find Christine Cains teachings to not be Biblical? Calling out error in the body is not pride. So many things we call biblical are just cultural. To believe a womans place is smaller than a mans is at best silly and at worst disingenuous to what God offers. What do you think you can do differently to appeal to the masses that you should be trying to save? don't embrace the pain of emotional or spiritual recovery because there is pain. Let's not forget that, Why revival must be tethered to Scripture, Revelation 9: The pit, the smoke and hideous demon creatures, Lessons from the old Jesus Revolution for the new Jesus Revolution, Age is a mindset: How mental outlook and actions impact an aging mind, How to handle any criticism thrown at you, 5 reasons why the disappearance of the offering plate is so significant for churches. 29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. I pray against the pride that is here. Again, the stakes are high here. It is articles like this and people like you that make people afraid to go to church.. His Greek Orthodox family live in poverty in Australia where they immigrated. I had developed a lot of patterns of destructive behaviour and negative thought patterns.The big turnaround in my life was at Sydney University. Emma Fowle is assistant editor of Premier Christianity and editor of Voice of Hope, Premier's quarterly devotional magazine. 3. She notes that the severity of her cancer above her larynx was undermined by people who would say it was not a big deal but she notes that it became surreal to her the moment she was lying on the operating table with a scalpel at her throat. I dont care if its a man or a woman who pulls me out of the oceans of apathy and despair, saving my life and soul. 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. In other words, false teachers become subject to the churchs discipline. I do NOT comment on hearsay, other peoples experiences, other peoples commentary or who heard about who said what to who when. She is an ordained pastor and functions in that capacity. Why cant you say hey, its great you are working on your evangelismhere are some better resources I recommend because of ___? It sounds broad, but you think of the kid left in a hospital it would be just like God to take an unnamed, unwanted, abused, adopted girl and go: Im going to redeem all of those fragments of your broken past and put them together as a tapestry of my grace. Your past will do one of two things: either shame, guilt, regret, condemnation will cause you to shut down, or God can take those fragments and give someone a future. by Christine Caine is available now, To hear the full interview listen to Premier Christian Radio at 8pm on 3 July or download The Profile podcast, The agnostic journalist Elle Hardy has been investigating how Pentecostalism is taking over the world. Treating God as a Source of power and energy for the purpose of our bidding is no different than conjuring spirits from the dead. And so I will go to the king, which is against the law; and if I perish, I perish!. Instead of this kind of criticism, you should do as they do, pick a subject on your experiences, teach & encourage pole to walk in Jesus Christ. If the message they are preaching are not the message of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are not preaching truth and therefore are not bound by the rules for taking aside someone in the church. The Lord had to show me, through his word, that by marrying Nick we would have a ten-fold impact. My immediate family were great, it was just that they allowed people into our home, that they should have been able to trust, that were untrustworthy. Love is the most powerful thing on earth, I dont know why you waste your time gossiping and making assumptions up about people But its not my place to worry about that. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. As I stated before, in the end, we will all be held accountable for our words, and if you feel great that the Lord will congratulate you on your posts, then AMEN! He healed my body. As followers of Jesus in whom all things were made, we acknowledge the Darug people as the Traditional Custodians of the Country where our Station is located. Where am I?So I thought:OK, Im gonna put it all out there. You want to be a woman of God? I am perfectly okay with agreeing to disagree. Say sorry really quickly. Numerous private jets. To whoever wrote this, I pray that love invades your heart for a daughter of the King. ~ Christine Caine. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. What is your heart full of? Michelle, if the Christ you follow is the Christ that Christine Caine espouses, then its not the Christ of the Bible. All three companies are registered in England & Wales with a registered office address of Unit 6 April Court, Sybron Way, Crowborough, TN6 3DZ . In (Luke 11:35) (skopeo) is translated take heed.. Wow, look at all the responses against this, we need to follow what the scriptures say not twist them around, Thank you for the warning, I was caught up in these heretical teachers and I am so happy God gave me discernment and showed me that these people are not teaching but misleading thousands straight to hell. Manny, I dont want to jump too far into your conversation with someone else, but Id like to lovingly bring something to your attention. What do you spend most of your time worrying about? Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. Im very confident that if we apply those principles on an ongoing daily basis we can walk in victory. She said the most powerful tool to overcoming shame is knowing how much God values us. Faith? 26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Create Yours. In retrospect, Caine says she had to endure much despair in order to have a story of healing but it was because she ended up learning a lesson she thought she already knew. Absolutely agree with her. Let God judge, not these people who protest about these awesome people bringing tons of people to Christ. When a person, especially one claiming to be a Christian, however, takes the hard-fought life story and lessons of another and puts them in two of her books as her own without any source attribution, there is something very, very wrong in that persons life. However, I see the followers of this site not as such.. We must refute and point to the truth! I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life. It was my own walk with Christ, studying of the scripture, and life-changing experiences that helped me grow and see otherwise. . (?) Christine Caine is an ordained pastor of her church in Australia, and also regularly speaks and travels without her husband. Christine Caine, sexually abused but saved and freed in Jesus. What Im reading are a whole bunch of prideful Im SO right and they are SO wrong! posts that arent helping anyone but perhaps the ego of the posters. they are still teaching the gospel and people are coming to Christ. I grew up a Catholic and they spend so much time worshiping idols, I barely knew anything about Christ. IF YOU ARE PRAYING TO SAINTS, MARY, WELL THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO CHRIST, AS SHOULD WE, BUT NOT WORSHIP THEM. So if you are rooted and grounded in Jesus and anchored to Jesus, youre good. Pastrix Christine Caine from hereticalHillsong ChurchAustraliais a teacher that the serious Christian should steer clear of. I have heard Ms. Caine speak at two different womens conferences (It is my understanding that the Bible is ok with women teaching women), and her call for us (as women) to not be distracted by todays divisive, politically chaotic climate and to remain focused on winning souls for Christ spoke to my heart. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 1 Billy Graham Parkway, Charlotte, NC 28201 Study of the two commandments Jesus left us would be better use of your time. Relational challenges, staff challenges, the whole world shifting and it was like: Chris, do you want to keep your foot on the gas? I could cruise Ive got so much momentum from 30-odd years of serving Jesus. Weak and shallow theology is taught, and many grab onto it because they do not read Gods word as intended. Your significance and security is not going to come from a ministry, church, career, salary, title. She adds, "I was blindsided by a surprise attack, but God was not. The apostle John addresses such a scenario in 2 John and 3 John. Your absolutism leaves people out or puts them in little pigeonholes that fit with your rigid logic of scripture. Download free, high-quality (4K) pictures and wallpapers featuring Christine Caine Quotes. Beth Moore teaches the same thing, but oh my goodness! Neither should you. Youre not speaking as a Christian should. Nevertheless, even pastors in non-congregational churches must still rely upon the congregations cooperation for excommunication to work. if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? Without blemish or lies, we strive with and warn others of the impending judgement coming upon this world. Caine took to her blog on Tuesday to share that during the span of a week, she had gone from having a sore throat to being diagnosed with four separate throat conditions, including stage 1 of thyroid cancer. In today's world real hope is hard to find. I believe you have keyboard courage. Caine reportedly copied entire portions of Scott's book, forcing Scott to take legal action to settle the issue. . I imagine you would get a lot more done for the kingdom of you stopped pointing the finger at people and just started loving till it hurts. Is it winning people to Christ? 21Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. It was unarguably one of the "busiest and biggest seasons" of her life but Caine notes that she held on to faith during the entire process because she had no other resource. If he is that kind of guy, then theres a real question about his fitness for ministry. These clowns do not preach the word of God. Word of Faith Whether you point that out or not. If you know scripture you could in an instance see where Christine Caine is wrong. I needed to see this. The pain of recovery is great. When Christine was a youth pastor at the Hillsong Church, she attended a workshop on abuse to get ideas about how to help people. 4So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.. That is the only thing God really asks of us. He is this hope that we have; nothing else is going to do it. 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