Fix Bypass with a 15k, 2 watt resistor, and no problem. Picture:here. Piezo Dynamic Series Sirens Data Sheet, Honeywell Home, Resideo Security Americas I have advised my friends to call and tell them they have four flashes and get the gas valve now whether or not it has died. Thanks! Anyways DBs method DOES WORK! I replaced the Assy Unit thermocouple with the pilot lightNOW it flashes 7 times with 3 second pause. MaybeI also shook chicken bones over it and chanted. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. What the gas pressure has to do with a faulty temperature sensor is a mystery to me, and perhaps just part of their damage control process to delay things. I have NEVER had a thermostat unit fail in 35 years of owning houses. * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water [], [] How turn water main cutoff valve , In event main water valve fails, final backstop operate shut water house: main water valve street.. How to Turn Off Your Water Using the Main Cutoff Valve on 411 plumb: &p valve water heater leaking, Learn determine &p valve water heater leaking fix leaking &p valve.. 411 Plumb: The T&P Valve On My Water Heater Is LeakingResetting #$%@!! Everything else worked as previously described. If it reads less than 12 volts, you may need to replace your gas valve or controller. Last one. Its two pins go through the board. TOUGH! Slide the ribbon of wires out of the clip on the housing, and the front of the gas valve is free. The customer service representative explained to me that I needed a new Gas Valve and that if there was a store around me that had the Gas Valve, I could buy there (Menards, etc.) Something a major of an appliance like this cant barely go a year without working. We really need to tell the government to BUTT OUT of our lives, Big Brother wants to be my mommy and save me from myself. Well the throw away attitude has caught up with water heaters. I have the same set up as rdarnitall on 31 December 2014 at 7:28 pm and I just wanted to say thanks for that reset procedure, it worked for me. Holy Crap DB! > How can this have been going on for years and not have been fixed? They are not interchangeable. I also had a aluminum shield over the thermostat that is inserted into the tank. + One for DBs repair procedure. From this thread it is not true that the 4 flash fault is fatal. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use, in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion, well for water temperature sensing. Its not the likely culprit, but possible. Note which color is on which side. Test all joints after install for leaks! I do believe I will call for my warranty replacement anyway as it is likely needed. These things foul the sensor causing the 4 blink death light pattern. After reading through everything in both Cranky and DBs posts a couple more times, finding a 9v battery and making a second jumper wire to try the battery procedure described in DBs post, I went back to the unit, turned the gas supply back on and re-lit the pilot, when BINGO! This does require one special tool, pictured at left. Got the ominous 4 flash a couple days ago after turning heat up too high. TheCrankyTenants worked for me. Thanks again to all. My light is now white instead of red and the electronic board appears slightly different. Picture:here, 4. Pull the three wire connector off the circuit board by pulling it straight out. Thanks all and internet! Disconnect the battery from the Right top pin. for labor. This is the fourth time in 3 years the control has died. Ive had my Rheem 7 months . I replaced my gas valve and only had to pay the shipping and smell bad for two days. It took right off and has been working fine. What a cluster outfit. I think you could reset the controller by taking off the two leads to the thermocouple and short the two connecter tabs on the bottom right of the controller together for a couple of minutes. This would do the same as pulling the connector off the board and relighting the pilot momentarily. I wish I had known this a few months ago. Will keep this for next year when it breaks again. I also examined the circuit board and noticed a few minor differences, but I think the real problem was in the design and components. For more information forwardthinking.honeywell.com Home and Building Technologies 1985 Douglas Drive North Golden Valley, MN 55422 . I know I did this while trying to figure out why no hot water. They are the 3 thin metal posts that stick out beyond everything else in an upside down triangular V pattern. I had issues let the unit sit and drain. The only material needed is one short jumper or piece of wire. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946581980/ Mineral buildup on the valves temp tensor cap the metal part that sticks into the tank could cause the high limit situation by delaying the rate at which true water temperature reaches the thermal sensor. The older controllers will reset this way. If it does, the fault should clear in a few seconds. 3. Preferably one that doesnt use that stupid Honeywell valve. If you need to, stick the screwdriver in from below to lever them loose. It is a V pattern. Of course I am out $120 (twice!) Well, hows your repair going? Still no flashes.) I used sealant on all the piping going into the valve assembly however I used teflon tape for the screwing portion of the assembly that goes into the tank and touches water. This worked for me! Most Honeywell water heaters with electric gas valves need just 12 volts for the valve to work. My house is going into escrow and it worked on my red light control board and saved me from buying a new control board or WH! The result: Make sure all the wires are connected, turn on the gas and follow the steps in your water heater owners manual to relight the pilot light. Pull cover straight out to remove it. This one broke after less that 1 year. and found a guy that removed the board allowing the capacitors to discharge fully, (just by removing the board). But the whole process raises a couple of questions in m y mind. Using a flat tip screwdriver remove the bottom screw that holds the housing on. My Family thanks you for the tip to reset the Honeywell Gas control valve. Thanks to your solution I will have hot water until the replacement value arrives. A day or so after install, I did raise the temp just a tad to 130. Any way, the pilot fired up rather quickly and flashed one time every three seconds! This time I turned to this forum. WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 316910-000 316910-000 321166-000 100112336 & 9007884005 AO Smith AO Smith AO Smith WT8840B1500 2" insulation tank, 5" WC setting . Ill call for the replacement to have on hand and keep the instructions. Not sure if these links will come thru, however I took a few pictures of my replacement. 8: Once the status is blinking, set the temperature to desired level. Brand New. Here is what I did with pictures to solve this issue. Plug the cord back in F-ING A BRA! Check closely to see if you have a spark. Well it died for good. I called Whirlpool customer service, got the replacement valve for $30 cost of the shipment. So the fault condition DID (initially) reset itself. Includes an integrated NTC temperature sensor. I my case, I need to deliver about 130 degrees to get a high enough temp at my faucets. Is the designer still alive? I finally decided I would remove the burner unit & giveit a thorough cleaning (blow, brush & vacuum the screen) in the morning. No, I dont know that you can buy just the circuit board. Miller Lanyards and Shock Absorbers. The valve location is high enough on the tank that sediment likely wont interfere with its temperature sensing ability; 2. This will insure that the board will not be getting any electrostatic signals from the water heater. It is . Cheers. This is how you can un-fault the Controller or make it check for a fault again (and clear the fault). Everything is good. Had to do it twice for it to reset. They have a manual shut off. All that Sears tried to do was sell me a warranty extension for $199. Heater is only 7 months old. Product guides and documents Product Documentation (PDF) I did the same thing but it immediately returned to four flashes. I then turned the gas valve to hot and it lit and ran. Brilliant!!! Honeywell has a scam going, I paid over $500,00 for my water heater and several hundred to have it installed, since day one I have had nothing but trouble with the Honeywell thermostat,gas valve. Light the pilot. I then end up on the Low setting. I just found this article. When the pilot is lit, it will only glow blue, and not look this intense. Especially, drain the sediment from the tank. Switched back to the old board and still couldnt get it to work. But, I didnt know that the new board (white light) had been fixed so it seemingly cant be reset So I think I just screwed myself trying to cut corners and buy a few extra days. Voltage Minimum: 350 mV dc, open circuit. I suspect it to be calcium and salts. 37 sold. If not, you can still try the MFR, but a web search for honeywell water heater valve also turned up several vendors. Unscrew one screw at the bottom of the gas valve. Lessons learned eh? I had to pay $30 overnight shipping. It will stay on once i jump the top left and right pins but it wont clear the code. We had a power outage and the codes are switching from the 4 beat to the 7 beat to the heartbeat . I.E. Count the number of flashes and look it up in the manual. Error clears. All models of WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature sensor. You can save delay and $hundreds in plumber fees by fixing the part that's gone on strike. Keith, the manual says 7 flashes means Gas Control electronic fault My water heater is still working fine. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. Days Later after reading further I turned the main gas off, and removed the gas valve and the Torx security screws ( that have a pin to prevent regular Torx from entering the screw head). Why doesnt Lowes carry repair parts for the water heaters they sell? You can get the pilot to light by pressing this button, but unless you address the underlying problem, the chamber will overheat and the breaker will trip again. Thank goodness I found this site. The pilot would lite, the main burner would come on and it would run for awhile. Something to consider. The 5 inlet pipe would NOT separate from the Gas Valve assembly, so I had to run up to Lowes and get a new inlet pipe (5 1/2) to connect to the new assembly. Water Heater Gas Valve Replaces Honeywell Resideo WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 Furnace Heater Gas Valve Shut-off Slow Fast Opening Pilot Spark Hot Surface Ignition Repair Part . i did just what you described and my water heater is finally on. Thank you , thank you, thank you all in particular thank you David Boone. An extremely tense situation with 2 women in the house, Monday morning (Wife and daughter) and no hot water was avoided by the above fix. worked for me. If peoples replacement valves with the white indicator lights dont fail about the same rate as the old ones, maybe Honeywell has resolved the issue. I had a similar experience on a WV8840B1059 getting the 4 flashes. Say, Im going to rip you open, you dirty so-and-so. See whether the light goes back to its regular one-blink mode in response to this threat. Made in United States. The two wires to the controller on the bottom right are the two leads to the thermocouple which provides power to the controller and also senses when the pilot is lit. Just for reference THISpicture shows the wire that attaches to the control board. I am trying to get an idea of how reliable the soluton is. Flushing the tank briefly seems to be a pre-requisite for this fix, so do that first. Let people know on FB and other places that these tanks are equipped with a flawed Gas Control Valve. The government mandates all this crap that fails! Mine is the 1109 and has no posts. It may take a minute or so before the heating element comes on; be patient. The later version has a board-edge trace for accepting another type of slip-on connector. Executive summary: Once it has detected a water too hot event, the gas valve will never work again unless you know how to reset it. The water heater is a Kenmore and I called Sears but they only wanted to send out a service worker for $79 to diagnosis the water heater although I explained numberous times that the water heater is OK It is the controller that failed. HELP, what step to go. I dont seem to see a little white reset button. Miller MightyLite Leading Edge Self-Retracting Lifelines. By the time I returned (maybe 30 minutes later), the led had returned to its normal blue 1-flash mode. any help would be welcome. I do not think you have the same honeywell control that this website is discussing, there is no power switch or power cord. Maybe a result of their desire to protect themselves against scald claims and the programmers misunderstanding of high hot might have to be to deliver hot at a faucet that is 75 feet from the tank and serviced by uninsulated lines? Also had flushed out the tank. I suspect that shorting the posts is the way the Sears tech did it the first time. (Held the pilot open manually for 10 minutes. This WORKS! Wish Id had it before I Paid the 30.00 shipping for the new board. Set the dial to a reasonable temperature that wont upset the finicky little thing, and you should be good to go. Thanks forcreating this site! I called Whirlpool again, they agreed to ship a new replacement for $30 shipment again! you will get a 7 flash error. Great just what I needed, obviously the plumber who installed the WH did not change the 30 yr old shut off valve at the same time! Wouldnt it make more sense to not let the dial go that high? Im 67, and have somehow managed not to blow myself up without a FV sensor by not keeping flammable stuff by open flames, like water heaters and furnaces. Just make sure you label (or cell phone picture) where the wires go, to be able to return them, and then disconnect all the wires. It installed easily. Is it flashing at you? The pilot on my waterheater went out over night. Select a Model: Gas Control Trade Replacement Valve. After spending 51 minutes with Sears customer non-service the problem was resolved within 20 minutes following Davids instructions. If it overheats again, youll need to order yet another valve, or it will blow up, or something else you wont like. $30 plus tax and I will roll up my sleeves and attempt to do this-I CAN DO THIS (I think) In the mean time I will be stinky at work and my hair will serve as grease for deep frying. It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. Now WH is working fine. 1. The reason I got a new WH was so there would be no problems! It has lasted about a year then gave the 4 blink code again. In case you havent seen one before, its called a flat-bladed screwdriver.. Thanks so much. Franken valve worked! Never had this problem with old fashioned hot water heaters. I have the exact electronic gas valve unit on my Whirlpool water heater I purchased 3 years ago. Wife called whirlpool Monday. I am so happy that the company replaced it for you. When I checked the water heater the status light was not blinking at all. I think this Honeywell valve is pretty flakey. Have fun boys! I waited to see if the pilot would go off, but about 3 minutes later it started flashing normal, once every 3 seconds. When I put it back together, it still flashed 4 lights and only the pilot would light. That sounds reasonable. I tried the simple unplug and reset for 10 minutes and plug back in it worked awesome. Lore leaf, Great post! The pilot would light and I let it sit for a few minutes running on pilot. When the pilot wont light and there are no flashes, the problem is generally that the heating chamber got too hot and tripped the safety interlock. and now I got myself a huge repair issue, what the hell is wrong with kenmore and Honeywell to make a dial that allows you to raise the temp up to A,B,C AND VERY HOT and just by putting it up to A now I get 4 blinking lights and have to pay a repair technician to come give me a diagnostic! I have a newer version. Land lord got a hot water heater last week because my old one was leaking. Two months later I drained out about 5-8 gallons, saw minimal sediment. SUPER FIX< SUPER POST. This controller issue is a serious concern for me as I often leave for weeks at a time with the rest of the family to tend to the fort, but they would not know what to do, so I shall have to give specific instructions with pics etc. Then connected one end of wire to the metal frame of the valve and randomly shorted numerous positions on the bottom of the circuit board.. i.e. Could someone make a diagram or snap a pic and circle what posts to jumper? Maybe it should be Teflon coated if that interaction is suspect? When that gets combined with another situation it can then escape the tight loop it appears to be in and in effect resets itself. WT8840 controls provide direct replacement, Pressure Regulator: The outlet pressure regulator, See appliance rating plate for inlet pressure range, 0.5 PSI (14.0 in. 4. Pilot is lit but the led will not blink red at all it, how to reset this valve. Probably had sediment on bottom and overworked it. Just came home one day and the pilot light was out (this is the second time). I am now an expert at gas valves. Keep the knob pressed in until the Pilot valve opens (a click sound and the status light starts blinking on the circuit board). Time will tell. I just ran enough hot water out to get it to call for heat again and it lit fine on its own. The Whirlpool helpline says I have to replace the gas valve. I dont have faith in this product and may need your instructions at a later date. thank u CT. U and DB are $$ saversfor now anyway..LOL! NOTE: the 7-flash error seemed to last for quite awhile but eventually went to a normal single flash. I got right on the phone to service again and the first person said they would send out another Gas Control Valve, this time no charge for the shipping. Went back to buy a new thermostat. Rheem next day shipped me a new Honeywell control valve. 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