Quote from: hoyt-6190 on October 05, 2015, 05:57:33 PM. My 300 Weatherby has a slip on pad. That doesnt negate the fact that it will give you a tap, and a good muzzle device can help you offset that discomfort. That way it can be used to save the shooter's shoulder when shooting at the range, and removed to help save the shooter's hearing during the hunt. The power behind a .300 is pretty formidable, offering an average 2,960 fps in a 180-grain bullet: a 150 fps velocity gain on the .30-06. It is updated every time data is sent to Google Analytics. Mag., buy a rifle in .260 Rem. They Change Independently tested side by side with the best brakes on the market. Newton's law says (to paraphrase) that for every action there must be an equal and opposite reaction. I have accubrakes on my 270 weatherby and 340 weatherby. Instead of a .300 short magnum, buy a .308 Winchester. The gas escaping out of the sides is part of what allows the brake to do work in our favor (i.e. Thank you for the recommendation. Sold it instead of trying to tame it. Available in 12 and 20ga., 3" chambering. This is ~4% more than the one of the most popular brakes on the market. Ultradyne 7.62 Apollo LR Comp 5/824 300WM, 3. Kudos for maintaining a numbers-first approach to your analyses. So you can see how the muzzle brake performed with and without the suppressor attached. I also wanted to draw attention to the Badger FTE Muzzle Brake, because this is the one rifle I was actually able to test the recoil on. The .378 Weatherby may carry a bullet only half as heavy as a 570-grain solid in the .500 N.E. This time though, the American Precision Arms brake is the larger Fat B* model, and not their Little B*. Thanks! WebContact Us. Hiking bullet velocity exacts a high price in recoil! People also have a lot of good things to say about the Hellfire Self Timing Muzzle Brake as well. Ultimately as long as you thread to a standard pattern (5/824) and buy a brake and a suppressor that are threaded to that youre golden. Matte finished metalwork and walnut stock. The rifle I used is not a precision rifle, but it represents something most people are familiar with. Best Rifle Ammo for the Money 19 Brands Tested! The downside of the brake is a large increase in the amount of noise and stuff spewed out from the redirected blast. And the muzzle brake clearly does better at reducing recoil as I measured in this study. Later almost all of the shooter's hearing returns, but a certain amount is permanently lost, and the losses are cumulative. Cal has an engineering background, unique data-driven approach, and the ability to present technical information in an unbiased and straight-forward fashion. WebWe make clamp on muzzle brakes to fit virtually any barrel factory or custom up to a muzzle diameter of .530 all the way up to 1.065 Machined from 6061-T6511 aluminum, and MIL-A-8625 Type III hardcoat anodized in Matte Black. I want to point out this is just one suppressor design, and it isnt representative of all suppressors. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Since I borrowed this rifle just for these tests (thanks Bob), I didnt want to waste time doing load development, and I didnt want to risk damaging the rifle or causing unnecessary barrel wear. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. May want to consider the Gen2 Fat Bastard. It also allows you to turn the nut to keep the rearward-facing muzzle ports pointed in the direction you need while you secure the brake into place. That helps me know Im on the right track. This design allows it to work well with full auto fire due to how well it reduces split times. It also fits the rifle perfectly, as youd expect. Cloudflare sets this cookie to improve page load times and to disallow any security restrictions based on the visitor's IP address. I don't think its a must, I find mine very nice to shoot without one. But, since suppressors arent able to redirect those explosive gases like a brake can it seems they may always have a fundamental handicap when it comes to recoil reduction. Itd probably be a safe bet that those models would perform well on a 338. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Once again a BRILLIANT article! The .300 Win Mag has a decent kick, and when lining up subsequent shots, a dependable muzzle device might be an excellent solution to avoid having to line your shot back up. Because of that design constraint, it might be surprising if there was ever a suppressor that could reduce recoil as well as a muzzle brake. Thanks for such an unbiased write up !! Im just trying to publish stuff thats helpful to fellow shooters, so thanks for the taking the time to let me know its working for you! hoyt, that is one heck of a group.I don't know what more can you ask. Copyright 2003, 2014 by Chuck Hawks. Muzzle devices, such as muzzle brakes that help to reduce recoil due to strategically placed port vents, and compensators that help steady a barrel and reduce muzzle rise to keep you on target, are both popular choices. my dad claims theyre extremely loud, because it blows gas back somewhat, but thats all i know. A good braked 300 should recoil about like a light to moderate loaded 30.06. I really value your input from a more scientific point of view. I was excited to see how the empirical data stacked up to the hype I read online. Leading that group is the Holland Radial Muzzle Brake, JP Recoil Eliminator, Center Shot Rifles Blast Tamer (note their large 4-port model was used for the 30 caliber rifles), American Precision Arms (APA) Little B*, JP Large Compensator, new West Texas Ordnance Muzzle Brake, and the new Impact Precision Muzzle Brake. Four-way adjustable comb. Install thread protector until snug. I like seeing impact even at 100 yards. You can see it finished around the middle of the pack, ranking 11th among the 17 brakes tested on the 308. Since the .300 Win Mag is a .30 caliber design, you have a pretty decent selection of muzzle devices to choose from as long as your barrel is threaded with a 5/8-24 thread. It offers quick and easy one-hand-on, one-hand-off attachment and detachment. Rearward facing ports for the ultimate in recoil reduction. The 300 Norma Magnum (not be confused with the old 308 Norma Mag), is the newest cartridge in our line-up. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Makes 270 like a 25-06 and the 340 like a 308 to shoot and my loads are fairly stout. From the shooter's perspective, there is a noticeable reduction in recoil with the drilled BOSS muzzle brake in place. There are just a billion brakes out there, so I couldnt test them all. On the 6XC, the reduction for the overall momentum (green line) and peak force (blue lines) were very similar, with the impulse being decreased by 2% more on average. Multiple camo patters available. If you can handle an unbraked 300Wincheser Magnum you will not have a problem with the 6.5x300Weatherby. Earplugs worn inside of earmuff type hearing protectors are highly recommended when shooting a rifle equipped with a muzzle brake. Curious to see what everyones input is on muzzle brakes, I have done a lot of reading and research on many different brands. It seems like when the gases initially strike the baffles theyd be doing work in your favor, and a suppressor also slows down those expanding gases which spreads out the recoil and a decrease in velocity also reduces momentum. For the barrel clamp to fit, the muzzle of the barrel must be very specific dimensions, which often means you need to pay a gunsmith to contour to it to those dimensions. I do appreciate the question, because I didnt even realize I had published the data for a TOMB brake with and without the suppressor attached. Insert a 1/8 allen wrench through the holes and rotate the brake counterclockwise until loose. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. Aklys Defense Mojo Magnum Brake, .30 Caliber 4. Overall, I couldnt be happier. 6.5 Creedmoor Ammo Test Summary: Hit Probability At Long-Range, 6.5 Creedmoor Ammo Test Part 5: Live-Fire Group Sizes & Precision, 6.5 Creedmoor Ammo Test Part 4: Live-Fire Muzzle Velocity Details. The thing that would really catch my attention is the staggering price of ammunition. They are essentially a ventilated steel tube bored a little larger than the groove diameter of the barrel. . This cookie is passed to HubSpot on form submission and used when deduplicating contacts. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Vanguard Synthetic is highly affordable at around $550 retail. However, do not shoot them prone, or you'll get a eye full of debris.ask me how I know thatLOL!!!!! May 17, 2006 8,156 8,104 33 /pol/ www.youtube.com. I do not like an excessive amount of recoil so I am wondering if anyone with experience with the 6.5x300 can give me some comparisons of what to expect for recoil. According to Weatherby, who used a .416 Weatherby Magnum rifle for testing, the Recoil Reducer reduced recoil by 39%, the KDF Slimline reduced recoil by 40.6%, and the KDF Regular reduced recoil by 49%. Consider a muzzle brake, which trims recoil by mitigating jet effect. Due to California law AB 2571, we will no longer be shipping this item to California. Aside from the reduction in how much recoil you feel, the brake does a great job at cutting down muzzle jump to almost nothing. Great work as always. I hope this approach inspires others to join me on the journey, do their own tests, and publish it for everyone else to benefit from. Get an Accubrake installed by an authorized Weatherby service center and you'll shoot better, longer, and have more fun. 4. Provides two professional field strip & cleanings per year. It does not store any personal data. That weight includes the scope and mount shown in the photo. You can hunt the same animals and avoid having to make a choice between being kicked out from under your hat or being deafened. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. That really gets you into a completely different product, which is why I just focused this test on 6mm through 30 caliber. You need a donate button or something. About 75 rounds through it. Limited avilability. For a hunter in the field, shooting without ear protection, the muzzle blast from a muzzle brake is immediately deafening. Gunsmiths, contact us for information about our KDF Muzzle Brake Installation Program. 800-333-3288 | 801-876-2711, Multi-port design reduces felt recoil up to 76% (depending on caliber), Top and side ports direct gases to reduce muzzle rise, Closed bottom design helps reduce dust signature during firing, Multi-caliber design fits most rifle barrels .30 caliber or smaller with a 5/8"-24 TPI or 1/2"-28 TPI threaded muzzle. The 300 Norma Mag cartridge has 11% more powder capacity than the 300 Win Mag, and represents one of the largest 30 caliber magnums. I think itd be healthy for the industry as well, and I know as consumers wed all win. Quick Comparisons of the 6 Best Muzzle Brake for .300 Win Mag; Using Muzzle Devices; The .300 Win Mag Rifle Popularity; Muzzle Device Options and The POI shift is minimal and 100% repeatable. I just bought a south gate weatherby, an impulse buy but a gun I've been eyeing for 49 years. Hey, Jon. Personally I like muzzle brakes, cause they've helped my accuracy due to recoil reduction. The ballistics of this cartridge can challenge the 338 Lapua Mag at long-range (see Todd Hodnetts comparison). This design comes with a timing nut for easy installation and removal and makes this a hassle-free option. And so on. Looking at spending less than $2000 on the rifle alone. or 6.5x55. 1. The big question comes down to what measurement most closely correlates to perceived recoil from the shooters perspective. WARNING: 60-DAY LEAD TIME NO RETURNS OR REFUNDS ON BRAKE PURCHASES NON-WEATHERBY GUNSMITH BARREL THREADING VOIDS ACCURACY GUARANTEE & BARREL WARRANTY. Thanks for the feedback! The HELLFIRE showed 52% recoil reduction on a 6.5 Creedmoor test rifle. This rifle was fired from a bench rest at an outdoor rifle range with covered, but not enclosed, firing positions. Ahlman's claims a 50% recoil reduction when their Recoil Reducer muzzle brake is used on large magnum rifles. It was designed in 2012, about the same time as Bergers release of the 230gr Hybrid bullet and the two make a perfect pair. Not a fan! Independently tested side by side with the best brakes on the market. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". A good recoil pad, such as a Pachmayr Decelerator, softens the effect of recoil; so does a large buttplate. In their literature, Weatherby compares the effectiveness of the Accubrake to several other makes of muzzle brake. The 3-port design effectively reduces felt recoil and muzzle climb. WebBrakes & Compensators; Muzzle Devices; Rifle Barrels; Tripods, Bipods & Monopods; Rifle Rails; Action Kits; Rifle Slings & Accessories; Safes & Vaults. While zeroing your rifle with a few rounds before a hunt is tolerable, the rising popularity of long range shooting has made comfort and recoil control priorities. Their precision rifle shooting muzzle brakes features a simple tooless installation with a 5/824 thread and boasts a 4 chamber design that works with a jam nut to self-tighten when shooting. Our 308 rifle weighed in at a scant 6.2 pounds with a bare muzzle, and no bipod or magazine. Together, this provides a means to have quicker follow-up shots and faster target transitions. Hey, William. Other rifles chambered for huge magnum calibers, such as the Remington Ultra Mag line of cartridges, are also prime candidates for a muzzle brake. Trijicon Ventus: Measuring Range AND WIND! These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. WebOur clamp-on Muzzle Brakes are precision machined to YOUR exact barrel specs. I shoot a 300WM of the same weight without a break and it is fine. Comes with the beefier double screw DNZ Gamereaper rings, Weatherby muzzle brake, thread protector, Stockys VG2 carbon fiber precision stock, as well as the OEM stock. 300 win mag, spiral fluted barrel, full cerekote. Before you rush out to have a muzzle brake installed on your rifle (for about $300; get a good gunsmith to do the job), be aware of a few drawbacks. credited the KDF Slim Line as having the highest rate of recoil reduction of nine muzzle brakes he tested. If a rifle stock fits the shooter well the effect of recoil is minimized. Compatible with most common .30 caliber chambered rifles, this hybrid device features both recoil compensation and flash signature mitigation in one package. Recoil (kick) is the rifle's reaction to the action of the bullet being accelerated down the rifle barrel. Most of them cut recoil by around 20%. It just goes to show, you cant believe everything you read online! Good to know you found this helpful. Hope my ramblings answer your questions. Included is a locking nut for easy and secure installation to ensure excellent shot performance. All shooters on the range should be wearing hearing protection, but when I get ready to shoot I warn the shooters around me that I have a muzzle brake and its gonna be loud. A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. Please review your specific product barrel contour and length HERE for appropriate sizing. I am shooting 190gr Berger's. At this point, Im done testing brakes for at least another year. Rifle Recoil Table: Updated for 2023 with all popular cartridges It made the recoil, tolerable Maser Friendliest Faggot. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. As we discussed in the recoil post, when someone claims a product reduces recoil by 50% it usually isnt clear what theyre talking about. Timber Creek Outdoors Heart Breaker Muzzle Brake, Muzzle Brake Thread Size: Barrel Threading Explained. Plus, I live in the dessert so pretty lucky on the whole longer shooting range availability thing. Keep in mind your rifle use as well; if you have a range rifle for competition and matches, you might want something different than what you are using for hunting. but in the size of brake I'd need, the diameter of the brakes is a decent amount larger than the barrel. That is yet to be seen. Shorter 12-1/2 stock and 24 barrel. As I mentioned in the last post, Im clearly a research nerd, and when I built my first custom rifle, I put a lot of thought into every part. (1) Am I correct in my screw-off-screw-on assumption? I put a Vias brake on a 300 Weatherby mag. Add in a decent five figure bonus and pay raise after a good company year and I am back to finally give this a go! Their 6.5-300 offering has a 26-inch hammer-forged barrel with a 1:8 rate of twist. First off: OUTSTANDING work youve done here. CMMG .308 ZEROED Muzzle Brake MSRP: $99.95 $85.95. Some might offer all three, but you want to make sure to get a quality option if so. Combined with a good padded buttstock, and youll never feel the need to cringe again. Boxes, International Addresses, AK, CA, HI, MA, CT, IL, NJ, NY nor DC residents. Open the bolt, clear the chamber and magazine of all ammunition. 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